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Prize Fund USD 1,, Commercial Bank Qatar Masters. So if you watched a convention, you might remember the moment when the camera pans from state to state to state and a delegate takes the mic and brags about their state for a little bit and then reports how many delegates each candidate received in their state. Our pro-life state proudly cast our votes 16 votes for Senator Ted Cruz, 19 votes for Senator Marco Rubio, and thirty three votes to make America great again for Donald J.
Hannah McCarthy:  So that's casting a ballot, submitting the votes for a candidate for the nomination. And the rules vary from state to state. There are superdelegates who aren't pledged to anyone. They can vote for whoever they want. And then in some states, if a candidate gets the majority of public votes in a primary, then every delegate goes for that candidate.
You just have every vote going to Trump. Nick Capodice:  How would you end up having to take more than one ballot? Hannah McCarthy:  It rarely happens. But if after the first round of voting, no candidate ends up with 51 percent of  the vote. Then you have to go again.
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And in that situation, it stops mattering if a delegate is pledged to a candidate. They can start changing their minds and maybe casting a ballot for someone else.
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Bruce Stinebrickner:  Somebody has to get a majority. You know, you might reasonably ask, does that ever happen? Are there ever first ballots where someone doesn't get the nomination?
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He teaches American politics at DePauw University. The voting just went on and on and on. Bruce Stinebrickner:  I think the last time it's happened was And it was the Democratic Party. Are you ready? I believe they had over ballots. I didn't say two ballots or three ballots. I believe they voted about a hundred times over four or five days.
That must have been fun. Nick Capodice:  So in a case like that, you're just taking the public's vote and it's like you're throwing it out the window because you go from delegates who are pledged to a candidate to delegates who can now just go willy nilly and do whatever they please or be coerced or corrupted.
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It would be really exciting to watch. Bruce Stinebrickner:  You will really enjoy a real life analog. It will be exciting. So will I. I mean, I'm hoping it happens. But in every year there's kind of this rumble of, oh, this is the year no one's going to win on the first ballot. But don't bet your house on that. I mean, the party organization and followers in general understand that anything other than a first ballot nomination is probably going to work to the disadvantage of the party in the general election.
Hannah McCarthy:  So, yes, a contested convention would be super exciting to watch, but it could get in the way of the other thing that's going on at a convention which has nothing to do with voting or the nomination. Tammy Vigil:  That convention itself has not been the place where people choose  the candidates. The deal is because we've got primaries, because we pretty much already know who the nominee is before the convention even starts.
Modern conventions are about PR. I wouldn't, would you?
Hannah McCarthy:  It's a lot of we collectively agree on this, guys, don't we? I mean, look how amazing we are. We're better than that other party and we're going to win.
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Tammy Vigil:  And then also testing out different planks of the platform and also giving voice to either rising stars in the party so  that they can kind of get a testing ground on the national level and showing respect for sort of the lions of the party. That the grand statespeople. Nick Capodice:  Let's pause here for a sec. The platform! So the convention is where the platform gets figured out. But what is the platform? Tammy Vigil:  Yeah. So with the platform, it's really important because it's -- it gives a party something to rally around.
It also tells people what the party stands for. So if part of your -- if one of the planks in your platform is, for example, women's rights was a part of several platforms very explicitly, especially in the s and 80s. It tells you that this is something that's important to us. And then everybody can get buy in. And then messaging from both the actual candidate and then also all of the surrogates that are working for the candidate. They have a similar sort of starting point for all their messaging so that there's consistency across the board. Hannah McCarthy:  Of course, even the platform isn't really the point, right.
I mean, a big part of that is just checking in with one another, making sure everyone is feeling good and coming together as a party. Tammy Vigil:  So it's it's much more of a celebratory or confirmatory event now instead of a decision making event like it had been. So they're trying to put an hour up, very positive outward face on the party for people who are either undecided or people who are in the party that they can sort of rally.
So there's there's that part of it. That's a huge part of them. In that way, it kind of is become sort of a very celebratory, jovial kind of event. Hannah McCarthy:  Bruce Stinebrickner there actually likened the convention to spring break for politicos. Bruce Stinebrickner:  Don't college kids go off to Florida in spring vacation and have fun with other college students? I think the answer's yes.
Nick Capodice:  Basically, it's like a giant party with thousands of people who are all into the same stuff you're into?
Bruce Stinebrickner:  It would be fun to be a delegate at the national convention. There's a lot of wining and dining. There's a lot of speech giving. I'm sure there's a lot of partying. It would be a four day party with other people interested in politics. Nick Capodice:  I got pretty deep into delegates in our primaries and caucuses episode just in case people are wondering how people actually get to the convention and how votes are apportioned out and all that jazz.
So if you want to know about that, just give it a listen. But who are these delegates? Who are these people?